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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
“The Secret to longer battery life revealed”
What is Thermoil made up of and how does
it improve a battery?
Thermoil is patented and is composed of several different blends
of oil consisting of different ingredients, an anti-foaming agent
that is blended together to make the final product called Thermoil®
or often referred to as Thermoil Oil. When this special blend
of oil is added to a battery it will increase
battery life, eliminate corrosion,
greatly
reduce water consumption, greatly
reduces the risk of explosion, reduce
the toxic odor of electrolyte and is resistant to very cold and
hot weather !!!
How does it stop corrosion, reduce water
consumption and explosion?
The oil is lighter than acid & water so it will always float
on top of the surface. When you discharge and charge a battery
you will have all these little bubbles coming up to the top of
the battery. When these bubbles reach the top of the surface,
they then break up violently creating the gassing and the
misting affect. Even though most of the water evaporates
out, the bubbling process does atomize tiny droplets of acid,
some of which settles on the top of the battery. This moisture
attracts and holds onto airborne dirt, which eventually conducts
power between the battery posts, corroding and electroplating
them away.
The acid film also directly attacks your battery bolts and cables.
When Thermoil® is added to the battery, these bubbles
which are coming to the top of the surface reach the oil layer
and have to work its way thru this layer of oil. What happens
is this oil layer will slowly let these bubbles thru which will
then break up gently on the surface eliminating the misting affect
and the acid film from being carried out the top of the battery!
Since this mist is not coming out of the top of the battery you
greatly reduce the water consumption. When your battery tops
stay dry (because the oil also prevents this acid film from being
carried out the top of the battery) it eliminates the corrosion.
Because the oil slows down the gassing process you will not have
as many gases present at one time, which in turn greatly
reduces the explosion factor.
Does Themoil give the battery longer life?
Yes and no. It will not give it any more cycles. Some batteries
are manufactured to get 300 cycles and some say 400 battery cycles
and so on. All batteries are different. The more expensive batteries
usually have more life cycles. You get what you pay for. But,
if you took two identical batteries and added the oil to one and
not the other and failed or just forgot to check the water and
clean the corrosion off of the non-Thermoil battery, the Thermoil
battery would probably last 2 to 3 times (Years) longer because
the other battery would run out of water, and corrosion would
drain the battery power faster which would reduce the number of
cycles of the non-Thermoil battery.
Thermoil® has test results and pictures of a test like this
where you can see and read about. A Master Electrical Engineer
performed this test. Also, when you start to get corrosion your
battery won’t charge and discharge properly because of the
resistance from the corrosion - you are loosing voltage. With
Thermoil® added to the battery you will not have corrosion.
as long as the a battery or cables don’t have corrosion already.
Corrosion is like cancer, once it starts it keeps spreading. So
if you add Thermoil® to a battery that already has corrosion,
Thermoil® will not stop it, but if you add Thermoil® to
a new or used battery that doesn’t have corrosion it will
keep it that way !!
Can Thermoil® be added to any battery?
Yes, any battery that has caps on it where you can add water.
Thermoil® mostly benefits the lead antimony battery, or Lead
Acid non-sealed batteries.
Calcium batteries: Calcium batteries are sealed because
they don’t gas much and use much water, but you cannot deep
discharge a battery like this because it will only charge back
up about 98% of its capacity. But if you deep discharge it again,
then it will charge up e 98% of the last 98%. When you do this
over and over in a short time, your battery will only be about
75% of what it was when it was new. This type of battery is fine
if you use it just for starting say your car or boat because the
alternator will charge it back up right away. But this is the
worst battery to use if you have any accessories that you use
when the engine and alternator are not running. You want to use
a lead antimony battery. Calcium is a mineral and antimony is
a metal. The more antimony you have in your battery the more you
can deep discharge it and the quicker it will charge back up and
it is usually better for vibration.
This is why golf cart batteries, forklift batteries,
solar batteries etc, have twice the antimony as a regular
deep cycle battery because they are made for much harsher use.
The disadvantage of having more antimony results in more gassing,
more water consumption, more corrosion and a greater explosive
factor. This is why Thermoil® was made! It will eliminate
or reduce these problems.
How long has Thermoil been in business?
Thermoil has been in business for 10 years. During this time Thermoil®
has been aggressively working with a certain oil comapany and
several battery companies to come up with a new and improved oil,
which they did and patented it about 6 years ago. This is a much-improved
oil that does not contain all the organics that the old original
oil had.
How many battery companies use ThermOil?
Three smaller battery companies and a number of battery specialists
across the country that make about two and a half million batteries
a year combined.
How come the big battery companies don’t
use it?
Good question. They don’t want it on the market. If you ruin
your battery by running it out of water that is called misuse
and neglect and they don’t have to warranty it. But guess
what, you have to buy another battery. What would happen if they
made batteries to last 2 or 3 times longer? That would really
hurt their sales and maybe even put some of them out of business.
The owner of ThermOil has seen a battery that had a glass case
that was 20 years old and still working. Guess what happened to
that company? They are out of business. With Thermoil® added
to the battery and say your battery gets low on water, the oil
will coat the plates in the battery and keep them from drying
out. Without Thermoil®, the plates would be exposed to the
air causing the plates to dry out and corrode. To explain this,
let’s say your plates in the battery are 10 inches high and
you let the battery get low as to where 1 inch of that plate would
be exposed to the air. Now that 1-inch of plate will dry out causing
you to lose 10% of the battery capacity.
With Thermoil® in the battery it would take a much longer
time period for it to loose water 1 inch below the top of the
plates. But if this were to happen, the oil will coat that plate
and keep it from drying out. All you have to do is add (Distilled)
water and the oil will come back up to the top of the battery.
It will damage the plate about 2% but this is a lot better than
the 10% loss. Now, another reason why the big battery companies
do not want it on the market - At one time ThermOil supplied most
RV Manufacturers and this did not set well with the big battery
companies. The ThermOil Battery was advertised as a non explosion
battery - as fact!
ThermOil would take cables and hook them positive to negative
and short the battery out. They would melt the posts on the battery
and the cables would start on fire and burn on top of the battery.
Do not do this even if you have Thermoil® in your battery
because it is very dangerous. But the point is Exide Battery Company,
the largest battery company in the world, took the ThermOil battery
and made a video of it blowing up and sent it to one of the RV
Manufacturers that we supplied batteries to and they in turn sent
it to us. ThermOil knows this story to be true because they have
the video. Exide showed this RV Manufacturer the video of the
Thermoil battery blowing up. This was Exide's way of trying to
say how dangerous the Thermoil battery is. But! They took the
battery caps off and put spark plugs in the battery holes and
then shot a high energy current through the spark plugs. It took
them 3 times but on the third time it blew up and it really did
blow up. However, the RV Manufacturer did not think any of their
customers would put spark plugs in their batteries.
In spite of how Exide managed to blow up the Thermoil battery,
it resulted in having to destroy all brochures that stated no
explosion and make new brochures stating reduces risk of explosion
because Exide did make the battery blow up. Hopefully now you
can understand why the big battery companies do not want to work
with ThermOil. Some will even tell you if you add Thermoil®
to the battery they will not warranty it. That is just a scare
tactic.
Don’t get ThermOil wrong, some might not warranty it but
how does Thermoil® that just floats on top of the acid in
the battery cause it to become defective? Batteries that are manufactured
with a defect will usually go bad within the first 6 months. If
you would happen to purchase one of these defective batteries
and had added Thermoil® to it, all you would have to do is
suck the oil out. This is easy to do because Thermoil® just
floats on top of the acid and water !
You could then take the battery back for warranty, get your replacement
and re-add the oil that you removed from your defective battery.
Most of the time a defective battery is the result of plates touching
each other somewhere in the battery and this shorts the battery
out and kills it. How can anyone say Thermoil® that just floats
on top of the acid and water cause the plates to touch each other
- scare tactic.
I see ThermOil sells the bottle of oil
now, but didn’t they used to sell the battery with the Thermoil®
already in it named Thermoil Battery?
Yes, for about 9 years the ThermOil battery was sold and at one
time supplied about 70% of all the RV Manufacturers. And was also
able to ship pallets or truckloads of batteries anywhere and compete
but the problem was when shipping 1 or 2 batteries, it cost about
$50 to $60 dollars. Defective batteries happen.
This is when you need battery specialists all across the country
and only the big battery companies have that kind of distribution
and they did not want to work with us. All the RV manufacturers
tested the battery first before they started to use them but when
someone had a defective battery ThermOil could not service the
customer because of the lack of distributors or battery specialists
in that persons location.
As a result ThermOil would tell them to buy a battery somewhere
and pay the bill. The RV manufacturers kept complained of lack
of customer relations. If ThermOil could not take care of their
customers then they would have to buy batteries from someone who
could. This is how they lost most manufacturers and so in mid-year
2000 came out with the bottle of ThermOil.
ThermOil is no longer going to try to compete with the big battery
companies’ battery for battery because they do not manufacture
batteries. Therefore will mainly sell the Thermoil® additive.
This gives instant distribution for anyone who wants Thermoil®.
When you ship a battery that is hazardous material because of
the acid shipping cost is high. But when you just ship the oil
it is not. Now Thermoil® can be shipped anywhere in the world
by UPS, mail, or Fed X and now has instant distribution.
Didn’t Motor Guide at one time come
out with a battery with Thermoil®
Yes back in 1999. It was called Motor Guide Battery with Thermoil®
Technology. But, the same problem came up as did with RV Manufacturers.
They could not supply their thousands of dealers six to twelve
batteries at a time because of lack of distribution (Shipping
cost). Same story different customer.
Do any professional fishermen use the
battery?
Yes a number of them and quite a few guides. Larry Smith PWT Fishermen
will use nothing but Thermoil® in his batteries. They are
now lasting him 3 times as long. Gary Roach & Mark Martin
have been using the Thermoil battery for about 4 or 5 years until
the year 2000. Reason being, they had a large battery company
approach them and offered them a lot more money. It is the same
old story; ThermOil can’t compete with the big manufacturers.
But just ask them how they liked the Thermoil battery.
How do you do a specific gravity test
on the battery with oil in it?
First of all make sure the fluid level is full or to the top meaning
that the oil is about 1/8 inch below the bottom of the vent tube
well (1/8" below the plastic tube going down into the battery
cell). If it is low just add water, preferably distilled
water until the oil is about 1/8 inch below the vent tube well.
Then you will have plenty of electrolytes below the oil to take
your reading.
All you have to do is take your hydrometer and plunge it down
as far as you can go with it, usually until it hits the top of
the plate, then squeeze the ball so you get the air and maybe
the few drops of oil that might be trapped in the tube from sticking
it thru the oil. By releasing this air it will blow any oil that
might be trapped in the tube back to the top of the battery. Now
release the ball and you will suck up the electrolyte below the
oil layer and get your reading. It’s that simple.
If I buy a bottle of oil how do I know
how much oil to add to each cell? And do I have to remove any
acid first?
Each bottle of oil contains 12 ounces and the ounces are clearly
printed on the bottle so you know how much oil you are adding
to each cell. On the back of the bottle there are written instructions
that tell you how many ounces of oil to add to each cell per type
of battery. One 12 oz bottle of oil will treat most batteries
(12-volt group 24, 27, 31 etc is 2 oz per cell, 6-volt golf cart
battery is 4 oz per cell) unless you get into the bigger batteries
such as a 4D or 8 D which can take 5 oz per cell. The bigger the
battery the more oil that is needed. On the other hand the smaller
the battery the less oil that is needed. A lawn mower or motorcycle
battery only requires 1/2 oz per cell.
As to the question of do you have to
remove any acid first?
The answer is usually not in the bigger batteries but yes in the
smaller batteries. The simplest and fastest way, which takes about
two minutes, is to take a hydrometer and suck some acid out of
each cell and put it in some sort of clean plastic container.
Now add the correct amount of Thermoil® to each cell as stated
on the back of the bottle.
After the oil
is added take the small amount of acid that you removed from each
cell and add it back to each cell until you bring the top of the
oil to about 1/8 inch below the vent tube well. That is all there
is to it. If you would have any remaining acid left over be sure
to dispose of it properly. You should always wear eye protection
and rubber gloves when servicing a battery because of the sulfuric
acid.
Is Thermoil® Guaranteed?
Yes, for the life of your battery. If after you purchase this
product, you feel for any reason at anytime, that Thermoil®
fails to live up to their promises or even if it does and you
just changed your mind simply return it to them, and they will
immediately and cheerfully give you a 100% refund of the purchase
price no questions asked.
I have seen a battery additive called
O.O.B. Is this the same as Thermoil®?
No, not even close. O.O.B (Original Oil Battery) is what the original
Thermoil was. Don’t get ThermOil wrong, O.O.B. will eliminate
corrosion, reduce water consumption etc. but if you deep discharge
your battery a lot O.O.B. will shorten your battery life considerably
(More than 50%) but only when you deep discharge it. These tests
were preformed by New Castle Battery Manufacturing Company. The
test procedure: New Castle Battery Company took batteries
from the same run of production and added the oil (the original
Thermoil which was red in color) in half of the batteries. The
batteries were then discharged to 10.5 volts at 25 amps. The batteries
are then recharged to 120% of the amp hours removed. The test
is terminated when the voltage reaches 10.5 volts before half
of its rated capacity. The batteries are then cycled again to
confirm the results. Since these test results confirmed that the
original Thermoil (red in color) drastically reduced cycle life
under this type of test, we had to come up with a new and improved
oil which would not shorten the cycle life of a battery under
this type of test for New Castle to continue to work with us.
After two years of aggressively working with Kendall Oil Company
(now called American Refining Company) and New Castle Battery
testing the oil, we finally found the right ingredients. This
is a greatly improved oil that now is patented and the color of
the oil is blue.
WHAT ARE THE MOST COMMON CAUSES OF BATTERY
FAILURES?
A.
Loss of electrolyte
due to heat or overcharging:
Leads to corrosion & sulfation
B. Corrosion:
Loss of plate and capacity of battery
C. Undercharging:
Causes Sulfation
D. Sulfation:
See our new PulseTech
Desulfators (Use with Thermoil
for Full Battery Life)
E. Old
age: Used up by sulfation, corrosion, or completly
cycled and no chemical paste left
F. Vibration:
During shipping or driving plates could warp
G. Freezing:
When battery charge is low the
battery can freeze and be damaged
H. Use
of tap water from home: Must
use Distilled Water
I. Overcharging:
Can warp plates, cause sulfation buildup, and loss of water then
corrosion
THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT BATTERIES
ON THE MARKET, HOW DO I KNOW WHICH ONES ARE THE BEST PER TYPE
OF APPLICATION?
A Good Question. There is a big difference between some batteries.
In the past 9 years ThermOil's Owner has traveled across the United
States and has met with hundreds of battery specialist. Most if
not all buy from several different battery companies so that they
can offer the customer a choice between a high-end battery and
a cheaper or low-end battery. After talking with these battery
specialists most agree that there are a select few that are better
than the rest. (Note: Survival Unlimited
sells only top of the line batteries for Solar & Wind power
systems. See our suggestions and then you can choose based on
your budget. One thing that helps batteries last longer is when
they are not discharged over 50% of their capacity. The more you
discharge the battery the less cycles you will get.)
BESIDES ADDING THERMOIL® HOW ELSE
CAN I INCREASE THE LIFE OF MY BATTERY?
Recharging slowly and keeping your battery well maintained are
the best ways to extend the life of your battery or battery bank.
For cold climates, keeping the battery fully charged will help.
In the warmer climates and during the summer, check the
electrolyte levels more frequently and add distilled water, if
required.
Never add acid or tap water
-- only distilled water, and do
not overfill.
Make sure you purchase or have a battery with more reserve capacity
than what you will need. (Example) Battery "A" has a
100 amp hour capacity. You need to use 100 amps each time bringing
Battery "A" to complete discharge. 100%. Battery "B"
has 200-amp hour reserve capacity. You use amp hours each time
bringing Battery "B" to half discharge, or a 50% State
of Charge. Battery "B" would cost you a little more
but would actually last much more than twice as long as battery
"A" saving you money. The shallower or the less the
average discharge of the batteries rated reserve capacity, the
longer that battery will last. Basically the chemical on the plates
of the battery will be used at a much faster rate when discharging
the battery over 50%. Therefore, if you buy a larger battery bank
and use 20% of the battery bank on average each day before it
gets recharged, it will outlast the batteries being discharged
50% to 60% by a large margin. Even though you use the same amount
of amperage, or battery capacity, the 20% usage ones will give
you more amperage over time than the others using the same spec's.
Therefore you would have to pay much more money in the long run
on batteries if you discharge them over 50%. Try for less than
50% if you have the money go with 25% discharge per day.
Recharge a battery as soon as possible after each use. Maintaining
the correct electrolyte levels, tightening loose hold-down clamps
and terminals, and removing corrosion is normally the only preventative
maintenance required for a battery. Thanks to the latest in modern
technology, a product called Thermoil® has been developed
to reduce, if not completely solve today’s battery problems.
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